# Attorney in fact

**URL:** <https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/attorney-in-fact/22291>\
**Category:** Beginner's Questions\
**Created:** [June 8, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/attorney-in-fact/22291 "2021-06-08T22:53:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![pcarolas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/pcarolas/32/17718_2.png) [@pcarolas](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/pcarolas)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/attorney-in-fact/22291/1 "2021-06-08T22:53:31Z")

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I have signing tomorrow morning. I printed docs and it looks like the wife is signing for husband as “attorney in fact “ does this mean she will be signing twice ?

Then when it comes to patriot act forms obviously if husband isn’t there I only fill out hers correct ?

Thanks !

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**Author:** ![LindaH-FL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@LindaH-FL](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/LindaH-FL)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/attorney-in-fact/22291/2 "2021-06-08T23:47:27Z")

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Yes and Yes. she’ll sign for herself if she’s on the loan (or if your state requires non-borrowing spouses to sign some of the documents) - she’ll sign for him however lender/title want her to - John Doe by Jane Doe, his attorney in fact, or Jane Doe for John Doe as aif; check with hiring party on how they want her to sign that part.

And yes you’ll only complete and sign her Patriot Act Form.

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**Author:** ![pcarolas](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/pcarolas/32/17718_2.png) [@pcarolas](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/pcarolas)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/attorney-in-fact/22291/3 "2021-06-09T00:55:26Z")

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Thank you ! That was very helpful.

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**Author:** ![cNsa5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/cnsa5/32/33381_2.png) [@cNsa5](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/cNsa5)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 10:37am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/attorney-in-fact/22291/4 "2021-06-09T10:37:32Z")

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I concur with LindaH-FL above & I always request their response in WRITING for two reasons: Serves as proof of the instructions provided & as a reference guide. I print a copy and use it during the signing for the signer as a reference guide while they execute the documents. They are very appreciative. 👼

Also, there are several other items I confirm with the hiring party:

1. They’re cognizant of the Attorney-in-Fact [AIF] document. Sometimes the Borrowers [BOs] identify it will be utilized, but Title/Escrow is not aware. NOTE: It’s integral to a successful signing for Title/Escrow to be aware of the AIF.

2. Request the format for having the initials executed on the documents. There are a variety of methods that could be utilized. Verify how they want them performed.

3. Ask if the property is held in a Trust as this will affect how the documents are executed as well. I have often found that for AIF signings the property is held within a Trust.