# Insufficient IDs

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**Created:** [June 30, 2023, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819 "2023-06-30T14:59:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![cfletcher](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/cfletcher/32/33399_2.png) [@cfletcher](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/cfletcher)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819/21 "2023-07-07T17:55:22Z")

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Linda, I have learned to rely solely on Florida’s State Notary Public Statutes/Florida’s Governor Reference Notary Public Manual for guidance. Even when I call NNA’s Notary hotline, whatever information they provide. I researched it with the Florida Notary statutes. Unfortunately there’s a lot of gray areas in the Florida Notary statutes, the state says to seek legal advice. The state’s representatives will not interpret the Notary Public statutes.

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**Author:** ![jennjoneis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/jennjoneis/32/34972_2.png) [@jennjoneis](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/jennjoneis)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819/22 "2023-07-07T18:43:52Z")

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Yes, exactly what I think

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**Author:** ![pisces39boa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/pisces39boa/32/30910_2.png) [@pisces39boa](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/pisces39boa)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819/23 "2023-07-18T14:10:51Z")

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As, I understand, a credible witness cannot be a family member. In AZ per all credible witness documents

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**Author:** ![ashton](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/ashton/32/35076_2.png) [@ashton](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/ashton)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819/24 "2023-07-18T15:29:04Z")

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I see that Arizona has adopted the Revised Uniform Law on Notarial Acts, just like my state, Vermont, has. Of course, each state makes a few modifications to the version recommended by the Uniform Law Commission. I can’t find anything in the statutes of either AZ or VT saying anything about the relationship between the credible witness and the signer. It would be a good practice for the credible witness to not have a financial interest in whatever is being signed, and not be closely related to the signer, but I can’t find anything in the law that forbids relatives from being credible witnesses.

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**Author:** ![LindaH-FL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@LindaH-FL](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/LindaH-FL)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819/25 "2023-07-18T15:33:11Z")

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> [@ashton](#):
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> I can’t find anything in the statutes of either AZ or VT saying anything about the relationship between the credible witness and the signer. It would be a good practice for the credible witness to not have a financial interest in whatever is being signed, and not be closely related to the signer,

I didn’t see anything in their handbook stating that either. That said, “financial interest” is an important issue here because anyone related to the signer could be a potential heir-at-law and, therefore, MAY have a financial interest in the transaction. When asked this by a signer I always suggest it would probably be best to get two people not related.

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**Author:** ![jennjoneis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/jennjoneis/32/34972_2.png) [@jennjoneis](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/jennjoneis)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819/26 "2023-07-18T21:44:10Z")

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yeah I think it’s the same in Michigan since it implies that the family member might have something to gain from the signing

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**Author:** ![NC\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/nc_mike/32/54_2.png) [@NC\_Mike](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/NC_Mike)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/insufficient-ids/40819/27 "2024-01-29T23:35:12Z")

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