# NPN Are they still in business?

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**Created:** [April 11, 2024, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247 "2024-04-11T11:45:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![pajyoung](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/pajyoung/32/33885_2.png) [@pajyoung](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/pajyoung)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 11:45am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/1 "2024-04-11T11:45:45Z")

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I called the National Paralegal and Notary two days ago. I was unable to get anyone on the phone. Additional, I havent been seeing orders from them on Snapdocs.

My last order for them was in February. I expected to receive a payment from them this month. The payment is late so I reached out to accounting. I was told that the network of law firm that they do business with is involved in a federal lawsuit and that (the network) they haven’t been able to pay their vendors. NPN said that their lawyers are working to get their payments and so I have to wait to get my payment.

What is going on?

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**Author:** ![cNsa5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/cnsa5/32/33381_2.png) [@cNsa5](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/cNsa5)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/2 "2024-04-11T13:02:47Z")

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@pajyoung Good question.

Longtime business entity that many members have WARNED to **NOT work with them.**

Here are 2 germane **RECENT threads** that you may find helpful:

> [@Never working with national paralegal and notarycever again](http://forum.notarycafe.com/t/never-working-with-national-paralegal-and-notarycever-again/44625):
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> Absolute worst notary/signing service company to work for. I did 3 signings for them early December…it is now March 5th and I’ve yet to receive my payments from them. And this is after me calling and emailing them 2-3 times a week asking for an update. When I finally got in contact with them on February 15th, they stated that they orginally had only 2 signings that i did and not 3. I emailed them screenshots and proof that it was 3 and ive yet to receive any sort of payment. They stated that the…

> [@WARNING: National Paralegal & Notary Co aka NPN](http://forum.notarycafe.com/t/warning-national-paralegal-notary-co-aka-npn/33021/16):
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> I know it’s an old post but I found it while looking for anything about NPN. I’ve been doing the jobs for them till I finally found out I was a part of the scam. People/signers were ripped off by the companies I was doing the signings for , and my phone number is now the only legit number, and I keep getting the calls from angry customers. I did try to contact NPN and their vendors, but they all just disappeared.

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I’ve performed a cursory **Search** on your behalf and the results show **27 separate** threads (_in addition to yours_) about this particular business entity. There is a **plethora** of data immediately available on the threads within **Notary Cafe.** ✨🌷

[http://forum.notarycafe.com/search?q=NPN%20order%3Alatest](http://forum.notarycafe.com/search?q=NPN%20order%3Alatest)

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Most members express that they find it _ **difficult/NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to locate** _ the **Search** Function in order to access the wealth of information available within the database.

To be helpful, I’ve inserted an image for you & others [_see below_] to help members locate it to unlock the wisdom & knowledge of other members on the forums.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/notarycafe/original/3X/8/b/8b13c4e27b4ce1d0d48056136b8270b936c3837c.png)

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_ **Accessing the database to locate information about potential clients has saved many of us an inordinate amount of time ‘chasing’ payments for Services professionally provided to potential non-payers . . .** _ 👑

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**Author:** ![alice2uworld](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/alice2uworld/32/33416_2.png) [@alice2uworld](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/alice2uworld)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/3 "2024-04-11T16:48:17Z")

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Know that this organization is pond scum. See additional notes below and on search tab above.

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**Author:** ![Mynotary19](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mynotary19](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Mynotary19)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/4 "2024-04-14T02:48:27Z")

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You’ve heard the correct story. The law firms are in court.

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**Author:** ![karlindavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b782af/32.png) [@karlindavis](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/karlindavis)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 7:46am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/5 "2024-04-15T07:46:58Z")

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NPN has shut down permanently. You need to email Lisa the owner for any outstanding invoices.

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**Author:** ![mrsmarcano6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/mrsmarcano6/32/35888_2.png) [@mrsmarcano6](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/mrsmarcano6)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/6 "2024-04-16T19:18:16Z")

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I did signings for NPN for 6 years. I was also a document manager for them for 3 years. I would just lime to say that NPN is the SIGNING service and not the scammers. They are literally just the middleman that hires notaries just like any other signing services. They are no longer in business due to the scam of the “law firm” who was shut down by the courts. Which is no fault of NPN.

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**Author:** ![LindaH-FL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@LindaH-FL](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/LindaH-FL)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/7 "2024-04-16T19:38:13Z")

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@mrsmarcano6 I’m going to beg to differ with you - this is the company that had notaries take a test after which, they told them, if passed successfully they would be Paralegals…which is not true.

NPN has been a non-payer for years. Maybe the wrongdoings of the law firm are not the fault of NPN, but NPN’s failure to pay and misrepresentations to notaries IS their fault…

Glad to hear they are out of business and can’t rob anyone else of monies earned. I have no sympathy for any company that rips off the sub-contractors and ICs who work for them. I’m curious how long they’ve been OOB and who the law firm was

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**Author:** ![mrsmarcano6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/mrsmarcano6/32/35888_2.png) [@mrsmarcano6](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/mrsmarcano6)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/8 "2024-04-16T20:03:27Z")

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I also took that same quiz and was never told that if I pass, i would be a paralegal. Where did you read that?

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**Author:** ![barbarahoffman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/barbarahoffman/32/30236_2.png) [@barbarahoffman](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/barbarahoffman)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/9 "2024-04-16T20:38:35Z")

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Lisa Munyon is the accounting manager and I have been reaching out to her and getting the same response that they have not been paid from the company that contracted them. I did not know until right now that they are out of business.

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**Author:** ![LindaH-FL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@LindaH-FL](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/LindaH-FL)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/10 "2024-04-16T20:54:02Z")

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This has been reported over the course of the years and on various forums

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**Author:** ![mrsmarcano6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/mrsmarcano6/32/35888_2.png) [@mrsmarcano6](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/mrsmarcano6)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/11 "2024-04-16T23:32:47Z")

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Wow, I have never seen that from them. I had no clue

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**Author:** ![mrsmarcano6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/mrsmarcano6/32/35888_2.png) [@mrsmarcano6](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/mrsmarcano6)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/12 "2024-04-16T23:33:40Z")

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Lisa is the owner of NPN and Notary Jane. I am sorry that this is happening to you

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**Author:** ![notaryjen81](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/notaryjen81/32/34535_2.png) [@notaryjen81](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/notaryjen81)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/13 "2024-04-17T22:05:28Z")

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Charter Legal if you google the CFPB lawsuit against Charter, 5 states suing them

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**Author:** ![barbarahoffman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/barbarahoffman/32/30236_2.png) [@barbarahoffman](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/barbarahoffman)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/14 "2024-04-24T12:29:10Z")

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Sandstone Law Firm. I have 375 owed me from NPN and haven’t been paid because of this law firm. I worked for them for 4 years and was paid otherwise. I doubt I will see this money.

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**Author:** ![cNsa5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/cnsa5/32/33381_2.png) [@cNsa5](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/cNsa5)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/15 "2024-04-25T12:46:39Z")

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**TO ALL WHO ARE OWED FUNDS ===\>\>\>**

Here is a direct url link to a **Notary Cafe** post by @rparker providing a **Step-by-Step Guide** to successfully receiving payment from a _ **non-paying business entity:** _

> [@Demand Letter for non-payment? Have you ever?](http://forum.notarycafe.com/t/demand-letter-for-non-payment-have-you-ever/35511/5):
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> I had that happen to me. Here are the steps I was told to take and it worked. You need to contact the title company who used the signing service that contracted with you. If they refuse to help, let them know you holding them responsible. If they refuse to get the service to pay or to pay you, send 3 emails with a copy of the invoices attached marked PAST DUE, spaced about a week or two apart requesting payment with the warning that unless payment is made, you will be taking further action…

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**Author:** ![notaryjen81](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/notaryjen81/32/34535_2.png) [@notaryjen81](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/notaryjen81)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/16 "2024-05-09T15:56:46Z")

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Yes, I was told that they haven’t been paid by the law firm because of a lawsuit by the CFPB, 4 states are suing for fraud. They owe me since January 2024.

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**Author:** ![calspkns](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/calspkns/32/30849_2.png) [@calspkns](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/calspkns)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/17 "2024-06-04T19:51:46Z")

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I am on the UNPAID list also. Owed money for work in January and still nothing but the song and dance. I do know that Lisa M Munyon is still listed as Custodian of Documents with the Nevada SOS, so don’t give up trying to corral these crooks…

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**Author:** ![NC\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/nc_mike/32/54_2.png) [@NC\_Mike](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/NC_Mike)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/npn-are-they-still-in-business/45247/18 "2024-09-02T19:51:47Z")

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