# Signing taking a long time **URL:** \ **Category:** Beginner's Questions\ **Created:** [November 9, 2019, 6:09am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080 "2019-11-09T06:09:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dan\_nsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@dan\_nsa](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dan_nsa)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 6:09am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/1 "2019-11-09T06:09:34Z")
Today I did a loan & refi combo signing about 170 pages, 20 notary certificates, most had to have the venue corrected initialed & dated plus all the jurats needed some work on them because they lacked the CA disclaimer box (I have a stamp), and probably 60 signatures. It took almost 2 hours to get it done. I see some claiming they do 5 signings a day??? Is this normal?? ---
**Author:** ![Arichter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/arichter/32/35077_2.png) [@Arichter](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Arichter)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 10:19am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/2 "2019-11-09T10:19:32Z")
There are some Lender/TC combos that routinely have large pkgs w/20ish certs, and you have to enter the venue, the signer’s names, date… a lot of work. And others that only require 2 or 3 with all info pre-printed, And MANY variations in between. When you learn who the labor-intensive ones are–charge more! You can cut down table time by completing all the corrections, fill in blanks, just don’t sign/stamp prior to appt. If you’re in a high population area, yes, 5/day is possible. Low population/rural…lucky if you average 1/day. ‘Normal’ does vary by area. It’s a numbers game everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![dan\_nsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@dan\_nsa](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dan_nsa)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/4 "2019-11-12T00:32:16Z")
Then don’t do business with them, if they don’t pay a decent amount, then working for them only encourages them to continue with their low-ball amounts. I initially accepted a few low ball amounts because I was just starting, but no more, it has to be a fair amount. ---
**Author:** ![kdarling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c67d28/32.png) [@kdarling](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/kdarling)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/5 "2019-11-12T16:21:11Z")
in CA our requirement is a line per notarization per person. sometimes I have had 3 signers andover 10 notarizations per person. a lot of work. but I do take someat a lower fee if in my own city . if I have to travel I usually will state that is $X more for travel costs/time. ---
**Author:** ![kdarling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c67d28/32.png) [@kdarling](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/kdarling)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/6 "2019-11-12T16:21:36Z")
and most of the time, if you don’t grab a signing right away you won’t any in CA. ---
**Author:** ![dcaldwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/dcaldwell/32/26298_2.png) [@dcaldwell](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dcaldwell)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/7 "2019-11-13T17:04:40Z")
You can use Adobe to copy and paste the borrowers names into each Cert. as that is what usually consumes the most time as you are unfamiliar with the spelling of your clients names… And yes by all means increase your fee accordingly, as professionals we should be paid over $50 per hour in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![manika\_felix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4da419/32.png) [@manika\_felix](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/manika_felix)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/8 "2019-11-14T04:46:19Z")
The competition is the reason why the pay is so low. I’m lucky to get $100 from some of the signing companies that paid well in my home state. ---
**Author:** ![Arichter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/arichter/32/35077_2.png) [@Arichter](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Arichter)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/9 "2019-11-14T08:54:28Z")
Just curious, aquicknote…what state were you in before and what state are you in now? ---
**Author:** ![chirstineortiz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/chirstineortiz/32/21374_2.png) [@chirstineortiz](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/chirstineortiz)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/10 "2019-11-14T22:23:08Z")
I’ve been doing this for 28 years. You can write in a lot of the information before you go to the signing so all you have to do is stamp and sign. That is normal to have packages that size You don’t have to go in depth for many of this pages. Just a brief description is usually all that a borrower wants And yes I regularly do 5 signings a day. Preparation is key. If docs come late that changes it a bit but it’s best to fill in all the areas that need filling in ahead of time. Including forms that need filling out. Statement of information is one I usually fill out the basics, you can see their information from their 1003, loan application Keeping chatting to a minimum is good too. It’s easy to get sidetracked Don’t get too involved. You are their to notarize docs. A borrower would normally get very upset if it takes that long as well. Remember preparation is key…no signings should take more than an hour…on very rare occasions if there are issues or you get the “readers” who read everything After all these years I would say about 1% want to read everything They want to know what is their payment and what are the fees. After than just a brief description Most realize that the docs are generic docs in all mortgage packages and don’t really care. I hope this helps. And it is possible to do 5 a day with good organization skills 💜 ---
**Author:** ![dwdog1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/dwdog1/32/20213_2.png) [@dwdog1](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dwdog1)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/11 "2019-12-29T00:35:54Z")
No 2 hrs with ALL that work is Not Bad at All…and when Done you have to QA the Docs at the Table!! = more time! ---
**Author:** ![dwdog1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/dwdog1/32/20213_2.png) [@dwdog1](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dwdog1)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/12 "2019-12-29T00:38:43Z")
Yes many folks are doing 3 - 5 Gigs /Day and Yes they prep and spend time lining them up & Many have been in the business for years, Not All…but they are in a high density city & some are also working Directly for Title and receiving a min of $150 /gig !! ---
**Author:** ![dwdog1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/dwdog1/32/20213_2.png) [@dwdog1](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dwdog1)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/13 "2019-12-29T00:42:06Z")
Oh and I forgot…many Companies are Also Asking for Scanbacks after the Appt!! some want 3,5 pgs and some 10-20!! than go Drop Docs! Challenging! ---
**Author:** ![dwdog1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/dwdog1/32/20213_2.png) [@dwdog1](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dwdog1)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/14 "2019-12-29T00:47:45Z")
Sounds good and I’m somewhat familiar with your scenario…What about when How many signing Companies/Title want/ask for How many pgs Faxed/Scanned back Immediately after the Signing and than bug you asking for the shipping status…want DOCS shipped immediately also = more time! ---
**Author:** ![chirstineortiz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/chirstineortiz/32/21374_2.png) [@chirstineortiz](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/chirstineortiz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/15 "2020-04-23T21:15:51Z")
I do about 8 signings a day If you want to message me privately you may. I’ve been doing this for 29 years and can tell you some tricks of the trade. 🙂🙂 ---
**Author:** ![VIPnotaryCO](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/vipnotaryco/32/27834_2.png) [@VIPnotaryCO](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/VIPnotaryCO)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/16 "2020-04-27T04:33:20Z")
Good for you! I can only handle between 4 to 6 a day max. After the 6th I’m pooped. It’s like Groundhog Day every day. ---
**Author:** ![judikidd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/judikidd/32/33496_2.png) [@judikidd](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/judikidd)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/17 "2020-05-03T12:05:44Z")
6 is my max, 5 is often, 4 is usual, 3 if I have other appointments. 5 days a week, goal is 18 per week. My partner matches that. All refi, buyers, sellers, or HELOCS. Very rare for us to take a reverse (too much time for the money), an application, or a loan mod these days. ---
**Author:** ![Clemmon2410](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/clemmon2410/32/20463_2.png) [@Clemmon2410](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Clemmon2410)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/18 "2020-05-06T02:05:44Z")
Christine, it appears that you are on a roll doing 8 signing a day. I am new what advise can you share? I have the NNA certification. I am familiar with most of the loan document after been a Realtor for over 30 years. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![eigramh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/eigramh/32/26900_2.png) [@eigramh](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/eigramh)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/19 "2020-09-14T03:26:55Z")
I highly agree with you! Organization skills is a must. Also, I make 1 copy of RTC for each signer, just in case they make mistakes. As soon as I come in the borrower’s house, I give them their copy, do an oath, explain to them that there are some forms that I can legally explain to them (Deed of Trust, Note, First Payment Letter, and Closing disclosures), and the majorities are disclosures, that if they have any questions, they would have to call their lender or escrow for the answers. Then after that, all I have to do is keep on flipping the pages and point to them where to sign, sign with date, or initial. They usually don’t ask questions. I double check the docs and I tell them “I will triple check the docs when I get to my office and I hope they don’t mind if I call them, if just in case I see any missing signatures, etc.” I hope this helps… ---
**Author:** ![dan\_nsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8491ac/32.png) [@dan\_nsa](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/dan_nsa)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 10:36am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/20 "2020-09-14T10:36:44Z")
" As we review each document, I will describe to you the document’s general purpose.", that implies all documents. from SPW Signing Presentation Guidelines. Was your training different than NNA? ---
**Author:** ![chirstineortiz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/chirstineortiz/32/21374_2.png) [@chirstineortiz](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/chirstineortiz)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 6:24am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080/21 "2020-09-28T06:24:40Z")
2 hours is wayyy to long. Think about the clients sitting there. Could you focus on documents for 2 hours. After 30 minutes most people start to tune out I am experienced but I have NEVER had a signing take two hours More than an hour is pushing it. Imagine going to a title company and having your signing take two hours. It just would not happen so why should it happen with a mobile notary. Also, if you take that long…remember your time is money…the longer it takes, the less money you earn in the long run. You are a BUSINESS. Take the fee, subtract out your fees, paper, toner, equipment, fuel, notary insurance, and of course taxes then see how much is left and divide it by the time you spent processing the documents, the time driving to location, the time at the location, the time dropping package and the time for all the correspondence time. You will see you are making very little when you take much longer than normal. No signing should take more than an hour. There are of course exceptions but don’t overthink the documents. Give BRIEF overview of the documents. You don’t have to go in complete detail on the documents. That is not your job. You are there to help assist them in signing the documents. The documents people care about normally is the note, closing statement and the deed of trust/mortgage. After that there are just a plethora of disclosures that state the obvious and there are usually duplicates of the same form which add to the size. I have been in the business for nearly 30 years. Operate as a business and remember that your time is money and the clients also don’t want to spend 2 hours of their time signing papers. It is exhausting for them already. The MAJORITY of people are like this so remember that. ALOHA [Next page](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/signing-taking-a-long-time/9080.md?page=2)