# Who to advertise with **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking For Advice\ **Created:** [March 11, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715 "2025-03-11T21:48:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jcarlson9](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/jcarlson9/32/34855_2.png) [@Jcarlson9](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Jcarlson9)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/1 "2025-03-11T21:48:43Z")
I have been contacted by many, many companies who want me to sign up with them to provide work. Some are; Loan signing solutions, Nationwide notary registry, NNA, find a [notary.com](http://notary.com), US signing agent, Hire [notary.com](http://notary.com). Charges are from $30 up to $100. Do most of you pay these companies to find work for you? Which ones are good? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Arichter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/arichter/32/35077_2.png) [@Arichter](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Arichter)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/2 "2025-03-11T22:09:19Z")
Save your money. Hiring parties are using the platforms. IF (big if) you’re in an area where local TCs hire outside help, stop in their office when you’re in area & introduce yourself. Ditto mortgage brokers. For GNW, list yourself on all the FREE sites–yellowpages, google, etc. Do NOT ever pay for ads…the ROI just isn’t there. ---
**Author:** ![cNsa5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/cnsa5/32/33381_2.png) [@cNsa5](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/cNsa5)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/3 "2025-03-11T23:32:36Z")
@Jcarlson9 As expressed above, **NEVER** pay for advertising! For most _ **Directory listing** _ sites, they’re no cost or minimal annual fee. Also, there is MORE THAN AMPLE information immediately available within the Notary Cafe database (use the **Search Function** - _see below_). Most members express that they find it _ **difficult/NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to locate** _ the **Search** Function in order to access the wealth of information available within the database. To be helpful, I’ve inserted an image for you & others [_see below_] to help members locate it to unlock the wisdom & knowledge of other members on the forums. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/notarycafe/original/3X/9/2/92fc8122bcf1a702ccf8b4b373c5e8c20032d170.png) . . . _ **Regarding training/certification/mentoring . . .** _ _ **There are many scams to be wary of . . .** _ This is what is meant when we reference that “_ **it’s a very small world** _” in this business sector. Someone new can make an inadvertent (_or simple_) error on their _initial few signings_ and VOILA! Their name is _ **“out for publication”** _ between & among lenders, title/escrow companies [T/ECs], etc. and those individuals are **avoided for possible Signing Orders**. Another reason we advocate for ensuring you receive some _ **professional, reliable, & trustworthy training** _ (_not YouTube_) prior to accepting your initial Signing Order. Just looking out for your successful **Business Launch**! _As new members seek insights regarding launching their business, a **Key Element to Success** is providing themselves with **an appropriate foundation and undergirding** that will serve & support their business._ There are multiple factors to consider: - What is your background? - Do you have experience in Real Estate? - Do you have experience in Mortgage Lending? - Do you have experience in Banking? Etc. ad nauseam . . . =\> just know that you’re launching a _ **business** _ and the **onus is upon you** to create the best foundation possible from the onset. ====== _ **My personal experience:** _ When I initially started performing this work, I _ **successfully completed MULTIPLE training/certification programs** _ including Notary2Pro & NNA and many others. I have extensive experience in skill sets that require certification and recurrent evaluation tests; i.e., I’ve maintained my Project Management Professional [PMP] certification for more than 20 years. So, I understand what it usually entails and the elements that should be included within a comprehensive training program. Regarding the NNA training specifically, it’s lacking across multiple topics & categories. Many NNA “graduates” choose to take additional training courses elsewhere, because they sense they’re insufficiently prepared. Their primer has errors throughout. Their hotline is less than reliable for accurate responses. In my experience with undergoing the multiple training programs for certified notary signing agent [CNSA] certification, hands-down without question, **Carol Ray’s Notary2Pro** training programs are optimum in this industry. I’ve successfully completed ALL of the multiple training/certification programs that **Carol** offers through her company Notary2Pro. Her programs are thorough & detailed. These also **prepare the business owner to operate a business**. In addition, she offers Mentoring services. I found those to be excellent & INVALUABLE when I was initially starting out in this business sector. The prices are surprisingly reasonable. ✅ I’ve professionally compared the training/certification programs available at Notary2Pro with the others I’ve successfully completed. The **ONLY training/certification program I recommend** is Notary2Pro. A list of companies that hire Notary2Pro graduates (with minimal or no experience) is provided to successful course graduates. =\> This list is _ **pure GOLD!** _ Study up, refresh your notes, & let **Carol** know when your initial few signings are scheduled. She is a wonderful mentor & can be on standby in case you encounter difficulties or have questions during your first few signings. She’s the Best! Her support will help you Build your Confidence in providing this service. 🏆✅ In addition, Notary2Pro works diligently to keep this list up-to-date regarding vetting and viability. As we all know, some reliable clients can encounter financial difficulties and that, in turn, can negatively impact CNSAs directly. Of course, your best bet would be to visit their website at [https://www.notary2pro.com/](https://www.notary2pro.com/), research, and make the choices appropriate for your situation. The training programs by **Carol Ray** are comprehensive & thorough. ✨🎉🕶 _P.S. I receive no compensation or remuneration of any type or kind as a result of my first-hand experiential review above._ P.P.S. Unfortunately, **Carol passed** (_February, 2022_) **from our earthly plane.** I hope she Rests In Peace. _I’m grateful to have made her acquaintance and studied under her tutelage._ ====== **ADDITIONAL NOTE:** Here are **2 separate threads** (_see direct url links below_) that will serve you well. Read them carefully & take notes. There is pure gold within these words . . . > [@Temper your expectations](http://forum.notarycafe.com/t/temper-your-expectations/21831): > > To preface this, I’ve been a lurker on these forums for quite some time and I’ve noticed a ton of expectations lately that seem too unrealistic. I’m a NSA out of Michigan and have been one for the past 7 years. I usually pull in at least 8k worth of business every month but it takes a LONG time to get to that point. I see a ton of newer notaries looking to make fast money or expecting SS or TC to come to them over seasoned notaries while they have very little experience. A few tips that I’d sug… > [@Why I don't like night and weekend signings](http://forum.notarycafe.com/t/why-i-dont-like-night-and-weekend-signings/30325/9): > > IMPORTANT NOTE/CAVEAT: @Myshadowmax When you have a query that you seek answers for, please do your due diligence and check with the appropriate licensing and notarial commission issuing agencies FIRST; not just one single For-Profit business entity. =\> It’s YOUR business reputation that’s on the proverbial line. The National Notary Association [NNA] is a For-Profit BUSINESS entity. If you perform a Search here on Notary Café, you’ll find many threads with posts from members who have succe… . . _ **Here are two reference texts that I strongly recommend:** _ _**To All Notary Cafe Members & especially those considering launching a business within this sector (or those recently having done so . . .).**_ - I often express to DIVERSIFY services provided as it will “smooth out” the peaks & valleys of the income stream. Over the years that I’ve been providing these professional services, I’ve purchased **many texts** (_more than a baker’s dozen or so_). There is _ **ONE text** _ that have purchased & gained an **IMMENSE** amount of **wisdom, support, & guidance** from reading =\> “ **Marketing Your Non-Loan Notary Services** ” by Laura Vestanen. The price is QUITE reasonable at a mere $8 (_used version_). This text is an instrumental guide to effectively & efficiently expand **your business** while simultaneously utilizing your well-honed notarial skills! I truly found it to be _ **very helpful** _ , insightful, and truly assisted me in brainstorming my way to _ **greater success** _ years ago. It’s much easier to surf the peaks and valleys of business cycles if there are multiple income streams (_diversify your services across varied business sectors_ ). ✨ ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/notarycafe/original/3X/a/c/ac18098f12d9e81d03bfd9b2aec2514d3de1b408.png) _ **FYI: I receive no compensation or remuneration of any type or kind as a result of my first-hand experiential review above nor from any sales of the text.** _ **===\>\>\>** However, now I can strongly recommend an _ **additional reference text:** _ The Entrepreneur Equation. It provides insights for the entrepreneur to perform a Self-Evaluation, Risks & Benefits, Understanding Finances, Setting Expectations, & many other topics critical to success. It’s available in a **physical book** or via **Audible**. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/notarycafe/original/3X/d/1/d164b8b487c5b25e76c9308404b483d039e2d76b.jpeg) Just finished reading the text. It’s only **288 pages, so a quick read. It’s truly a Step-By-Step Guide** to help objectively evaluate every aspect. Best of all, the author provides this valuable data interjected with _ **much-needed humor!** _ It’s very straightforward. This enables you to comprehensively assess the next step to take (_or not take_) . . . It’s the best type of Reality Check for it’s brutally honest with you BEFORE investing hard-earned cash into a new venture. She answers every question you can think of & then some . . . _ **The following Editorial Review says it all** _ (_from the Amazon web page for the book):_ ““I wish I’d had The Entrepreneur Equation when I started my business. It would have saved a lot of time, stress, and heartache through the growth while I made a go of it alone. If you’re thinking about starting a business, already running a business that is not profitable, or you haven’t been able to take your business to the next level, this book is for you.”” —Gini Dietrich, CEO of Arment Dietrich, Inc. and author of Spin Sucks _ **FYI: I receive no compensation or remuneration of any type or kind as a result of my first-hand experiential review above nor from any sales of the text.** _ 🦢 ---
**Author:** ![johnsonps306](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/johnsonps306/32/35090_2.png) [@johnsonps306](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/johnsonps306)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/4 "2025-03-12T00:14:54Z")
I’m not on any sites that charge for a listing. Go direct to platforms. Such as snapdocs signingorder - there are several out there. Probably a list on the forum somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Jcarlson9](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/jcarlson9/32/34855_2.png) [@Jcarlson9](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Jcarlson9)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/5 "2025-03-12T03:25:56Z")
Rays ? I believe they charge the most. $300. For classes. ---
**Author:** ![cNsa5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/cnsa5/32/33381_2.png) [@cNsa5](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/cNsa5)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/6 "2025-03-12T11:44:59Z")
@Jcarlson9 Never pay for a Directory Listing. In my _ **direct experience** _ of successfully completing **MULTIPLE** certification/training programs, the Notary2Pro courses are the ONLY ones that will serve you well for preparing you to launch, operate, & develop a business within this sector. In addition, that Fee is for the **comprehensive** & complete set of courses. Remember the adage: _ **You get what you pay for . . .** _ ===\>\>\> The others are selling you the “sizzle,” but not the steak. . . You really do need to ensure that you have what it takes to be an entrepreneur, because it will take a LOT OF WORK to be successful in this business sector AND it will take time to become established (_like in any new business you launch_). This is why I have also recommended “_The Entrepreneur Equation_” by Carol Roth. It would have helped me SO much if I had know about it in the beginning . . . _Best Wishes_ 🦢 ---
**Author:** ![cNsa5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/cnsa5/32/33381_2.png) [@cNsa5](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/cNsa5)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/7 "2025-03-12T14:01:57Z")
@Jcarlson9 When you purchase “_The Entrepreneur Equation_” text also purchase this reference text (_as noted above previously_): ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/notarycafe/original/3X/7/b/7b25075e7adde0028aa48f9ce2f7834e7c7dae2c.png) The **combination** of these two reference texts and the training/certification courses referred to above will provide you with _ **excellent guidelines & guardrails** _ for launching, establishing, and flourishing the business. 🎉 _ **It takes hard work, dedication, pounding the bricks, developing new relationships, thinking creatively, & a very strong willingness to ensure customer satisfaction to achieve success.** _🎉 🦢 ---
**Author:** ![salliemaesioux](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/salliemaesioux/32/35103_2.png) [@salliemaesioux](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/salliemaesioux)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/8 "2025-03-17T21:08:50Z")
I’m a firm believer in not having to pay to get work. This reminds me of “professional” photographers or “talent agents” who promise to find acting jobs once one has used their services and paid a fee up-front. If and entity truly finds you work, they can collect their fee from your earnings. And we know THAT’S never going to happen, RIGHT? ---
**Author:** ![earl226](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/earl226/32/35091_2.png) [@earl226](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/earl226)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/9 "2025-03-18T13:16:43Z")
Very good advice, no need to pay there are free sources. ---
**Author:** ![earl226](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/earl226/32/35091_2.png) [@earl226](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/earl226)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/10 "2025-03-18T13:20:00Z")
A very good training company is Notary Training School less then $100 ---
**Author:** ![Jcarlson9](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/jcarlson9/32/34855_2.png) [@Jcarlson9](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/Jcarlson9)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/11 "2025-03-23T20:13:23Z")
Unfortunately, I get so little work I have just taken a part time job at Lowes. I really need to earn some cash. The notary signing just isn’t coming through for me. ---
**Author:** ![johnsonps306](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/johnsonps306/32/35090_2.png) [@johnsonps306](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/johnsonps306)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/12 "2025-03-24T13:54:36Z")
I think it’s possible many mobile notaries are discovering this. ---
**Author:** ![NC\_Mike](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forum.notarycafe.com/nc_mike/32/54_2.png) [@NC\_Mike](https://forum.notarycafe.com/u/NC_Mike)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.notarycafe.com/t/who-to-advertise-with/50715/13 "2025-06-22T13:55:25Z")
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