If an order says print two copies I print two copies. We don’t actually know what the notary fees on a CD cover. Assuming it was all for our trip is just an assumption. We should be quoting enough so we can follow directions.
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Agree with @johnsonps306 - we should not be cherry picking what pages the borrowers get and which ones they don’t. They are entitled to a copy of the entire package (minus notary instructions), that’s what you’re being paid to do and that’s what you should be doing. Your fees should be structured to accommodate this.
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I delete notary instructions and the five pages of instructions that are behind a W-9. And the instructions on the IRS form. I take out as many pages as I can for the signer copy. But I don’t try to decide what they should get.
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No that is not normal. But I always ask for a higher fee when the final package page count is over 175, plus I always check the package for possible redundant documents I can redact from the return package for the executed and/or the borrower’s package (but I always check with SS and/or Title before I redact anything). I have run into lazy lenders occasionally, ore overly micromanaging who ask the Notary to print the appraisal, full title report, inspections (that don’t require signing) when the borrower already has an electronic copy when they executed their CDs…. Its 100% not my job to print and present appraisals…or lengthy inspection reports paid by the borrowers to the appraisers/inspectors or the lender directly. It would also just be ridiculous to return the printed out appraisal to the lender ( they already have it). I also delete redundant notary instructions and forms from the copy package. This consistently knocks down the package by 10+ pages in most cases and sometimes will reduce the copy package by 50-60 pages or more…BUT…again I always check first, and if the Title company wants the whole potatoe printed twice, I ask “kindly and candidly”, for a nominal fee adjustment, and don’t recall anytime I haven’t got my fee bumped up.
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I usually have that amount for reverse mortgages. That’s like printing 500 copies. Should get 1.00 per page. Or close to it
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Hello @johnsonps306 are these the ones (size)? Amazon.com: AZ Shi Kong Jumbo Binder Clips 3 inch, Binder Clips Extra Large Heavy Duty 18 Pcs for Office Supplies, Black : Office Products
That’s them all right.
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@stevenotary For me, I was not printing a second set. The title company would have had to send them an electronic copy. Often times, when the packet is big and they don’t want to increase my fee, it’s simple to inform them that I will not be printing a second copy, and if that’s a problem, please reassign. 
I have never had one reassign. What I did have it clients telling me they didnt want the packet send then a PDF. However, I will print the CD, note, and first payment letter for the client, and if it has the right to cancel, I print that too, but that’s it. From business to business, you have to set your own rules too.
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If that works for you how lucky. Changing the rules on printing a signer copy may be why I continue to get signing orders that day failure to provide a complete copy for the signer will result in a fees reduction.
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@johnsonps306 This is a reference to the 800 pages. I was not printing a second copy. How often has the singing service not committed to their obligations? For example, not paying on time within their contractual agreement?? I think we should get grace as well.
eight hundred pages? That’s a lot. Call Simon & Schuster.
Loan signing agents don’t decide what obligations we adhere to or which we drop. That’s all I am saying. Our contractual obligation doesn’t change.
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I’ve been seeing the “print complete package for signer or your fee will be reduced” quite a lot lately.
Title 365 includes a copy of the notary order and the specific instructions that it must be returned with the package. And a copy left with the signer.
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Agreed many times they don’t know the page count…and we won’t know until we begin the print…I contact them immediately and request and additional fee…never been refused …most of my reverse mortgages are with the same company so at the get go I give them my fee upfront…
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Yes, once we download the PDF, we can see precisely how many pages it is. If it is an astronomical number of pages, before I begin printing anything, I would make sure my hiring company agrees to a fee increase and then sends the fee change confirmation.
Exactly. Great to be on the same page. Success back at you!
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YES! I’ve started charging normal refi fees for HELOCS. They are no longer 30-50 pages like they used to be.
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I use ups or fedex envelopes..theyre free
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These big 220+ packages just keep coming! I’ve had 4 this week and one tomorrow. WHAT IS GOING ON?? I want the 120 page days back…. 
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What I’m finding quite interesting about this thread is the varying definitions of what is ‘normal’ and ‘large’. And the fact that any ‘real’ business charges way more than we do to print. What IS wrong with us? History lesson: When I first began ‘printing the pkg.’, a case of letter size was $20/carton and legal about $27/carton….and they paid $50 for 80 to 120 pg. pkg. It isn’t just the paper/toner; it’s the cost of the equipment and time/labor involved–in printing, checking that it printed correctly and more table time. I also find it somewhat humorous that, now that they don’t have to print & overnight the pkg, the smaller TCs are still using slow-going very old programs to scan–which, in turn, take more of our time to babysit the printer.
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That’s true…. I call anything over 180 pages large. It could be argued that 150-160 is the threshold though.
A case of letter was $24 and a single ream of legal was $6 when I started and now it’s $50 and $9. I use Pen & Gear. I don’t dare buy a case of legal. I buy 3-4 reams at a time. My Brother XL toner is $280-$298 depending on who knows, but it varies. I go through that toner in 1.5-2 months. That’s almost my car payment!
I know it’s kicking a down horse, but I really wish the industry would allow us to charge more without affecting the number of signings we receive.
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