I appreciate your feedback. Please be mindful of your verbiage though as it can come across a little harsh.
"This is an Agreement that most knowledgeable Professional Signing Agents [PSAs] would NEVER agree to/execute for self-explanatory reasons. "
I’ve been doing this 10 years and I still had a question. No question is a stupid one. I read your comment as I should have known this. I’m hoping this is just an oversight on my part.
You are right to trust yourself. I don’t pay huge attention to folks who say NEVER. But - that’s just me.
If they’re going to “Employ” you, then they need to withhold taxes.
I have worked with them numerous of tines and we arent selling anything. We arent collecting anything and they dont require fedex/UPS drops. Yes they pay low but I will gladly do about 5 of them in a day at $85 each because they arent asking us to sell anything. The last page of the document the customer has to sign and we notarize it. Also, they pay on time. So i will be signing mine today. Worked with them and i am already preferred with them im just glad it will be less pages to take with me.
You do realize you assist in the SALE of closings when you do loan signings, you assist in the SALE of a title exchange/bill of sale documents when you notarize them, you assist in the SALE of car refinancing. You are assisting in executing documents for a SALE of something that is being exchanged either through money or other means that need notarizing.
Have you ever done one. The “salesperson” has already gone over the documents with the customer. The only thing the notary does is have them sign and initial the 31 pages, then have them fill in their banking info (same as any closing wiring document) and notarize it. There is not any saling of anything. If there is an issue then youd call their salesperson to get things handled and then proceed with the signing or leave if the customer changes their mind.
Please provide documentation of proof???
No where in the NNA says that.
Also if you are still only covered under NNA then you arent providing coverage for your business. The NNA does state their E&O does not cover loan signing. They advise all notaries to go out and get full coverage from a reputable insurance company to cover other tasks related beyond notary duties.
Do you not PRESENT documents when doing loan signings or do you just point to the signature line? A knowledgeable and trusted notary will provide explanation without giving legal advice. i.e. PRESENTING THE DOCUMENTATION
Yall are reading too deep into this. I advise all of you to go into signingorder and take a look at your agreements you electronically signed when accepting appointments.
I’ve done many of these and I only notarize the signature. However, this contract is having people commit to something else. Even if you don’t do anything but notarize, you would still be liable for what is in writing. That is too much of a risk. You have to read into what you sign.
I will have to reconsider posting again because this is a tough group and the vibe doesn’t feel helpful and supportive. Yikes!!!
To all posters who have said the notary is not selling anything…please explain the above. Selling is EXACTLY what you are responsible for pursuant to the posted agreement.
I might add here, by the way, that these debt resolutions have been deemed illegal in many states due to the “ripoff” nature of some of the contracts the people are required to sign. Just be aware,and wary
Don’t let it stop posting. There are a lot of opinions. Expertise - not sure I’d call everything posted that.
Why is being snarky required?
Ok so why not call and ask for clarity instead of speculating?
So you as a loan signing agent are also responsible for documents and other peoples ppi while in your hands and you signed many docs stating it is your RESPONSIBILTY to keep it confidential and if anything were to go wrong youre solely at fault.
So does that stop you from taking signings knowing you are responsible for strangers personal nonpublic information while in your possession.
E&O outside of NNA covers you, well if you have the right amount. I have E&O set at max of 2 million, liability set at 2 million and i also have umbrella set at 2 million in the event something happens.
By the grace it has never happen and i hope it doesnt but i know i am covered and not by NNA and this agreement is just another signing service. We arent sales agents. We are independent contractors.
This kind of post is totally unwarranted…I’d suggest you delete it before admin removes it…and you.
For as passionately as you’ve defended this agreement and this firm, I’m curious what your role is…sounds like you have a deep vested interest in them.
Lets also note, the work comes through snapdocs so it is Notary work.
As i have previously stated, (reading is very fundamental.) I have done a lot of notary work and i like that its easy pay and not a lot of paperwork to do. Sign scan and go, no dropping.
And also my comment is unwarranted but someone can tell me to take a nap and insult me? Make that make sense.
Topic closed by admins. REMINDER - PLEASE KEEP THE CONVERSATION CIVIL.
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