Low ball offers and negotiations

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I’m sending my final response to a second message, even though I’ve already replied twice that I am unavailable. Please keep in mind that this signing agency always starts with a lowball offer, waits until the last minute, and then sends a slightly higher offer. This time, they sent me a personal text asking again if I was available and how much I would charge for this job. As a former educator, I couldn’t help but be honest and give them my sincere feedback. Here it is :slightly_smiling_face:

I received your previous notification about the job offer, and I already responded that I am not available. I am busy today. I have two closings, and one of them is at 4 o’clock, which is very close to this one, so I can’t, I’m sorry. If you’re asking about the fee for this type of loan signing, it’s typically $100 to $125, depending on the number of pages. My suggestion is that if you set a fair price instead of trying to negotiate for professional jobs, you will find availability faster and get your job done. By trying to negotiate and starting with a low offer, you do a disservice to your customers and offend the notaries. Just saying. Thank you for reaching out.

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Very diplomatic response. Maybe they need a clearer: STOP PLAYING GAMES.
I’ve experienced somewhat similar issues where if they’d have agreed to my reasonable fee earlier, I could have done it. By waiting until it’s just too late to be able to print and make the Appt., I have no option except to decline due to other commitments–even tho’ they’ve finally met my fee. And THEN, it gets re-scheduled and the game begins again.

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what is the name of your signing service?

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Apparently it’s not illegal for signing services and notary platforms to collude. It’s only illegal for notaries. Doesn’t it feel good to be so special? :slight_smile:

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Notaries are regulated. Signing services and platforms are all operating under the radar. We ought to send a petition or something to the CFPB about this lack of oversight. (Except who knows what the squirrels will twist it into…probably would be a mess.)

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Hi earl226, what do you mean to post it? Do you mean you post it somewhere in snapdocs?

As you complete a signing on snapdocs look for the add a signing button fill out the information.
This will show you completed one signing, as you complete more do the same this shows the companies that would hire you your experience.

You are all missing why fees are low? I don’t have that problem because I took training before I took my first assignment. And follow the directions given by own ever hires me. So back to low fees why should companies pay high fees when some people get their commission and jump right in and mess up documents which must be fixed. They don’t know us so they are taking a chance.

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I have a personal list of places I won’t work with. It might be because they offer ridiculous lowball offers (like $20), or I worked for them once and they either never paid or took too long to pay.

And if someone tells me upfront that they pay in 37 days, I might not like it, but at least they were upfront. When that 37 turns into over 90 - I just won’t work for them anymore. I cannot afford to work for free.

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That’s been my thought on the whole lowball offer. If I can cut and paste I have to show this thread:

Is it me or is this just disrespectful to the notary community?

“Hello, This is —-from The —-We are looking for a mobile notary.

Payment: $35

Date & Time: July 18, 11:00 AM

Location: DE, USA,

Docs Type: Durable POA (2 witnesses arranged)

We offer secure payment options: Zelle, CashApp, PayPal, or direct bank transfer.

Please provide name, email address and phone number.
Alternatively you can refer someone to us if you can’t be available for this appointment.”

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And as long as one particular person (MW) who is well known to tell his students to accept the low ball fees to gain experience is a HUGE problem. This creates a domino effect to all of us notaries.

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That number means very little in the grand scheme of things. It only tells how many Snapdocs signings you’ve done, not your overall experience level.

@alexia6ciulap Yes, Concur :100: percent, which is why I always strongly recommend that members completely & totally vet their potential client PRIOR TO providing their professional signing agent [PSA] services.

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Wow, excellent idea!

Those guys hate sheepdogs riling up their herd.

Lol great statement they may wake up.

Should we reach out to our local state attorneys and encourage them to participate?

Wonder if he gets a cut of the fee?