That’s one of the flaws of the system being used. The only chance of getting jobs is to grab them as quickly as you can and look at the details later.
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Agree. That’s what’s happening and they can only blame themselves as they’re the only ones who can fix the flaws.
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I’m with you on that one. I just took a REFI on there this morning. My original asking fee was given. It was not disclosed to me that the document would be 200 pages. I was too afraid to ask for anything extra becuase they did not disclosse that the page count was much higher than normal. What are we to do?
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Not always the case. I took one today for a title company that i have worked with several times. REFI packages usually around 130-150 pages. Todays page count, 200. With the message that came out i was too afraid to ask for more money.
What has worked for me and that instance is I will send an email and I will say my fee is based on a standard package of 150 pages or less would there be any bump available since this package is over 200 pages and I’m happy if they give me 10 extra dollars. A lot of people say well that’s not enough of a bump but our original quote should include printing and if that’s the case, how much extra is enough? I just stay very even toned about it when I ask.
I always did the same. Thats what im saying though is Signature Closers is telling us to NOT come back and ask for more, so what am i to do?
@jennifer.shaffor Concur 
percent. 
Within this business sector there are NO “safe” presumptions.
We all know that there are NEVER any safe ASSUMPTIONS. 
It’s the industry standard that if the document package is 200 pages (or greater), a 2nd Print Fee is to be added to the Signing Order [SO] Fee.
Certainly, Signature Closers is not expecting Independent Contractors to work At-A-Loss . . . Specifically, the newsletter addresses Accepting the SO & then Cancelling if the higher fee isn’t met.
Asking for an additional Print Fee would be within a different Category.
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Sweetly ask for more and explain why anyway. Anything over 125 pages is really just bloat.
My rule of thumb/loose math figures $5/25 pages or less & $5/25 for everything over that. Am I going to yowl about a 128 page pkg? No, but the closer is gets to 150, the more likely I am to balk. It ISN’T just paper, toner, but TIME to prep and at table.
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@Arichter Concur percent.
Unfortunately, it appears there’s little (to none) motivation from their standpoint to rectify the errors . . .
As you’ve expressed previously (and I’ve concurred with) there are a FEW business entities that are realizing the Signing Orders [SOs] will go unfulfilled at the Low-Ball rates.
At this point, only time will tell.
I continue to express that each Business Owner/Entrepreneur is to create their own Schedule of Fees based on their out-of-pocket expenses.
Reference the thread that follows for those interested in reviewing that data:
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@jennifer.shaffor The above excerpt is percent Accurate. 
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I tend to ask at least $25 more for anything over 125-150 pages.
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I ask for more money up front.I was negotiating with this company; they wanted to pay 100, I said no, it got up to 235, and someone took it. Maybe this is why they accept and then cancel. I do not know
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If you sign a contract and read it, most of the companies I work with expressly prohibit the use of subcontracted notaries. I
I do wish that when the job goes out, they would list everything, number of pages, scan, drop and distance. Then if I want to counter offer it would make sense.
I figure $.15 per page is the average cost.
I had one this week from a signing company that came across as a seller package. I countered with their low ball and they called me. I verbally asked what kind of signing it was, and was confirmed it was a seller package. Accepted their low rate because it’s not a very large package. Receive the confirmation and it was a buyer package with over 180 pages. I called them back immediately and asked for a higher fee. They could not even match my standard fee and this was a location 45 minutes from me. So I told them to find somebody else, that I was not able to do it.
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Yes!! SS think it’s a couple of more pages to print! No! It’s more time at the table and more possible questions.
@shickman1 Absolutely Correct! 
The audacity of suspending notaries for cancelling once they get the details. They are infamous for not including all details, like that the notary has to bring witnesses. Or that the package is 350 pages when they listed it at 150.
In my varied career, I was a productivity analyst (1979-84) and one of my responsibilities was forms [re]design for the independent banking industry. In those days, I learned a ton and became proficient at eliminating all the non-essential wording/copy/lines/marks/symbols/etc. found in the forms in use at that time. There were no PCs on everyone’s desks back then so every decision about a form change had to be really thought through.
I get the hives when I look at the forms that lenders/title/escrow use with all the non-sensical {Seal} (where “stamp” should go, if even needed?) or “Affiant Further Sayeth Naught” (although, I kinda like saying that to signers) and all the other junk on forms that seem to have no relevance today. I wonder what y’all think is crazy on forms. How about sending in your favorites - y’know, just a sample with a brief remark. Let’s have a little fun on this forum for a change. 