BEWARE: The Signature Stop, LLC - bounced check

Good morning!

Notaries everywhere should be cautious about working with The Signature Stop, LLC and its owner, Myesha Ray. If you want to avoid the inconvenience of depositing a check that bounces due to insufficient funds and a $10 returned check fee, be reprimanded for contacting Title alerting them to the situation at hand, and be gaslight along the way, steer clear of this company!

I had an unfortunate experience with them when I was assigned a closing on November 7, 2024. When I finally received payment on January 23, 2025, the check bounced, and I was hesitant to deposit a replacement check from them on January 29, 2025. Rather than taking it to my bank, I decided to visit the bank listed on the check, which resulted in an $8 fee for not being a customer there. Not only was my payment overdue, but I ended up losing $18 since the $10 returned fee was not included in the replacement check!

As you will see in the below final email exchange, this is a summary of what transpired. We are professionals, not beggars, and we deserve to be treated with respect while seeking payment for services rendered. Additionally, Myesha Ray attempted to suggest that the insufficient funds issue was merely “due to a processing error between banks.” No! It’s called writing hot checks, which is a crime!!

Enjoy the read (this was cc’d to the TC):

Myesha,

I wanted to inform you that the e-check (redacted) sent by Deluxe for The Signature Stop, LLC was returned by my bank today due to INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.

I confirmed this with my bank regarding the returned check for $[redacted] posted to my account. I am copying [redacted TC] on this email (as you cannot tell me whom I can or cannot contact per your email of Jan. 13th) to notify them that, although they paid you for this assignment, I have yet to receive my payment from The Signature Stop, LLC. I do not understand why it has been so difficult to receive payment from your company for the notary services I performed for the above assignment on November 7, 2024. I was informed of your payment policy, indicating that I would be paid at the end of the following month, December 31, 2024. I even faced your admonishment when I inquired too early about the payment and was told to wait until December 31, 2024. Furthermore, when I followed up on January 2, 2025, you responded tersely, stating, “Our payment terms are clear. Therefore, payment was mailed as indicated in the last email I sent you. Please allow 7-10 business days for receipt. We are not in the business of advising every notary when payment is issued. We indicated our pay terms at the beginning of the closing process.”

When the purported check did not arrive within the specified 7-10 days (considering the MLK holiday), I inquired again on January 16, 2025, and was informed: “Unfortunately, our company is not responsible for USPS, and we do not pay for express mail. However, accounting will issue a stop payment and reissue the check via e-check. Allow 24 hours for the stop payment to process. If the original is received, do not cash it.”

I sent a final payment status inquiry on January 22, 2025, but received no response. However, on January 23, I received the (now bounced) e-check, which I promptly deposited, only to be notified today that my bank could not process the check and had withdrawn the amount from my account. This situation is completely unacceptable. I have been more than patient with your company regarding my payment. The financial burden your company has placed on me is not only unprofessional but also unethical. No checks should be issued if there is no reasonable assurance that sufficient funds will be available.

I am now compelled to consider legal action for non-payment of services. My bank will be sending me a formal letter confirming that no funds were available when the check was deposited on January 23, 2025.

I am requesting a new check with immediate funds available within the next three business days."

Outcome: I received the replacement check today (January 29, 2025) without the $10 returned check fee. I took it to the issuer’s bank and was able to cash it, minus the $8 charge for being a non-customer.

Just glad to be done, so not worth my time and energy!

Y’all enjoy the day!

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@csmallsnotary Very sorry to read about your direct experience regarding difficulties with non-payment & insufficient funds for checks issued from this business entity.

Please know that many will be empowered to AVOID this business entity due to your efforts of sharing your direct experience. So, Thank You :tada: for taking the time to share it.

I wish you much success moving forward & know that you’ll continue to utilize the Notary Cafe database to help you SORT THROUGH the reputable (and not-so much) business entities that extend “offers” of Signing Orders [SOs] to professional signing agents [PSAs].

:swan:

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Regret to hear what happened to you. Be sure to keep record of your expenses incurred for tax purposes.

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Thank you! Will do!

What’s funny is her email after the bounced check, she admonished that I will be taken off her call/email/text list for my “unprofessionalism” and “poor lack of communication” approach because she so bluntly told me not to ever contact the TC ever again (which I totally ignored and contacted them anyway), as they have no involvement in notary issues. My response to her removing me was, "Oh, thank you! :laughing:

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Yes! Using this datable to weed through the reputable and not so much, have been valuable to me to date. I will continue to use Notary Cafe resources, it’s invaluable for my business.

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This company appears to be a notary who subcontracts to other notaries, not an actual professional signing service… I am so sorry you went through this. Not worth the pain and headache you went through for sure. Thanks for sharing it here. A good cautionary tale for other notaries.

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WOW! So a customer of mine referred this company to me for an immediate need to have a POA signed via RON for his sister to sign for him in the sale of a property. I assumed she was also using ZigSig and (and my bad) I never confirmed payment policy or terms.

I did this on June 2, 2024. We were on vacation the first part of July and I was a little behind in paperwork and follow ups. I emailed her July 16th a friendly inquiry regarding payment terms. This is her response “If you can send me over a W9 and invoice. We usually pay 30 days from the receipt of your invoice, however I will submit your invoice to our accounting department to see about payment prior to 30 days.” I own not asking those questions in the beginning. I immediately sent the requested documents.

At 45 days, I sent a inquiry and it took her 5 days to respond - but it was just before the Labor Day holiday. I received the standard the check is in the mail please wait 7-10 days line. At the beginning of October I once again emailed her and she apologized and paid me via Zeller. It was 118 days! I wasn’t as aggressive as I usually am with collections because of my relationship with my customer who gave her my contact information. I could find no other information on her company so I chalked it up to a comedy of errors. Reading this makes me think otherwise. Thank you for sharing your experience!

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Hi there, I’m sorry you had this unpleasant experience with this company. If only my interaction was less volatile than yours! Throughout this whole process, I could not understand for the life of me why she was so aggressive when I inquired initially about payment and afterwards. I was getting the impression she thought I was begging for some of her money! :sweat_smile:

Granted, I did inquire prematurely as I overlooked her payment terms to be paid at the end of the following month. Okay, fine. But after that period - it all went south as my post explained! I did not know she was not a SS, as someone alluded above, but subcontracts! You live, you learn! :woman_shrugging:t5:

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Unbelievable! At no time did she even mention that she’s subcontracting work. But, wait, didn’t she have to let the title company know that she subcontracted the work? Maybe that’s why she was so hard-nose with me about having contacted title about this situation. :thinking:

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That explains a lot (about her being a notary but subcontracts closings assigned to her). She had contacted me outside of any signing platform, i.e., signingorder.com, notary dash, snap docs). A red flag was that in her initial emails regarding the assignment, she was big on COMMUNICATION with her only. I now see why.

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Her responses were uncalled for!

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She sounds very unprofessional and trying to deflect responsibility. It’s no surprise the wicked behavior these days because these are the end days Jesus Christ spoken about in Matthew 24.

I have a tip for you on avoiding this type of fraud, cash checks against the bank where the funds are being drawn. I don’t know what state you reside but here in NJ someone writes a bad check; can be charged with theft by deception. Being, you are taking the check in good faith that the funds are available to receive in your bank.

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Wow, I’m wore out just reading your email. I wrote their name in my book, and immediately crossed them out. You were very professional in this tough situation. Now I know why they need the LLC…

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@csmallsnotary Here is some additional data. Would you please confirm these elements are a match with the data on your Signing Order [SO]?

Do you have an address?

thesignaturestopco .com

Myesha Ray

Troy Ray

signings@thesignaturestopco .com

Denver, CO 80249

“Serving the greater Denver Metropolitan area and surrounding cities”

303-551-1665

OR

303-801-5121

===>>> FYI: The Signature Stop LLC does have a Google review page with one 5-star review.

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What I have learned over time is to never take a signing from a company that you’ve never heard of, which just pops up “out of the blue” to offer a job. It might work out fine and then again, it might not. It can cost you more time and aggravation than it’s worth to try to chase down the money. Much safer to stick with known companies that you’ve worked for in the past or that have a positive reputation (for payments) among other notaries.

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Amen! Lord Jesus did warn us about how people would be “lovers of themselves” and not to mention treacherous in the end times right before He returns!

Thank you for the information.

However, they did not contact me via signingorder.com and therefore there is no order form to compare the information with. I’d received an unsolicited text message with a follow-up email containing the job order. And as you can see, things pretty much went south from there after the signing was complete.

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LOL! Now imagine having to actually live through that!

I was thinking the very same thing about them being an LLC! Lol!

I now only do loan closings direct with title companies and lenders. And will vet out any cold calls that comes to me. I will ask them out right, “are you a notary who is subcontracting a job that was initially assigned to you?”

No more signing services and their platforms for me! They win! They wore me out! LOL! :rofl:

@csmallsnotary I appreciate your position on this, so please know that the following insights are for others to potentially learn vicariously as a result of you direct experience!

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I’ve noticed over the years with inbound unsolicited calls & texts, the caller will speak very quickly & unintelligibly.

So, I kindly as them to repeat themselves & ask for their business mailing address while accessing online websites to potentially vet this client who is in
a RUSH!

Usually, there’s a not-so-great reputation that greets my online Search. So, it’s often a No-Go.

However, if you’re unable to locate any information on their business phone, address, etc, & your “spidey senses” haven’t triggered you to say “NO!” - request that as this is your initial Signing Order [SO] with them that you need to be paid in advance.

===>>> If they’re truly reputable & need the professional services right away, they’ll agree.

:swan:

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taking a proactive approach to holding signing companies accountable for timely payments, which is important for notaries who rely on consistent compensation. While banks may not be directly responsible for payments, informing them could provide valuable insight into how these companies operate. Delayed payments not only create financial strain for notaries but also reflect poorly on the signing companies’ reliability and professionalism.

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