ALERT: Elite Etiquette Group and Miles B Signing Service PLEASE READ

Hi Lisa, I received it. Thank you, I will fill you in shortly via email. Have a good day

I just sent an emai!

Performed a signing over 60 days ago, started leaving messages, texts and emails regarding payment on 9/20/21. No response. Posted in multiple notary forums on 9/24/21. Received an echeck today. I’ll follow up with whether the check clears as that has been a problem with Miles B Signings in the past.

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Hello;

I did a job for Miles B Signings 8/18/2021 and have yet to be paid. I reached out to Signing Order, as some on here have said they will assist, but Signing Order said they have nothing to do with invoicing. Would really love some help with this guy Miles B.

thanks,

Ted

My name is Ramon George. I am the CEO of Elite Etiquette Group. It has come to my attention that we are being mixed up with other signing agencies. I would like to come out and denounce those claims. Reading the post here it is the same person(s) spreading this gossip, causing damage to our reputation and spreading misinformation. One particular person that contacted us was told to cease and desist. We will be vigorously addressing this with our legal team to see what solution we have and what action to take going forward being that my reputation and business has been attacked for no reason. There is no one that we have not paid and are a separate entity from any of the signing agencies that we are alleged of being. The people that are contacting us are not even in our Notary pool. Getting together and discussing Notary topics for improvement is a great thing. Spreading lies, misinformation and slander is not. Please do your due diligence before listening to someone spread false information. Looking here no one even stopped to ask does Elite Etiquette Group have any past due invoices owed to anyone making those claims. I appreciate the Notaries who made me aware of the situation and will make sure those spreading this misinformation have a clear understanding moving forward. I just wanted to let our Notaries know. If you have any payment issues you can contact Ramon George at orders@eliteetiquettegroup.com or 916-883-1299 Thank you.

Please send us a copy of a valid ID for this Ramon George or a business license with your name and Elite Etiquette? I had already had my people do an investigation. I welcome any investigation that you and your “legal team” would like to the present. I sent you an email and you paid all the notaries that same day. Also, I made a copy of both of my signing orders from Elite and Miles. Both had the same fax number and name Naomi on the orders. You didn’t catch that until I brought it to your attention, then you immediately changed it. Signing Order has an IT team. They can see every change you make and every bit of information as it relates to both Miles B Signings and Elite. So again, I welcome you and your investigation. If your business is a legitimate business, you should have no issue with disclosing your business license and mailing address here in this forum. Thank you.

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Please correct your phone number

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Haha, the registrant phone number used to register the domain names milesbsignings.com and eliteetiquette.com is the same: 1.4806242599

https://in.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domain=milesbsignings.com

https://in.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domain=eliteetiquettegroup.com

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Yes, and he knows it. Ramon George is a made up name.

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Gasp. Shock. The horror.

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If you look at the Elite Etiquette Group website, it mentions their “23 years of experience”.
The whois link reveals this: “Creation Date: 2021-08-23T16:43:29Z”

He most likely was doing the right thing at first as Miles B Signing.

He is a seasoned notary, lots of work coming his way. He creates a signing company, Miles B and starts subbing his jobs out to notaries. Where he went wrong is not paying notaries when he actually received payment from the title company. By waiting 60 days or more, caused financial accounting to be unstable, not paying the notary and being greedy by keeping the fee. i assume he bit off more than he could chew and got behind, spending the money. So of course people complained and Miles B went down so he then created another signing service called Elite Etiquette. I assume he is trying to do the right thing now with Elite Etiquette but i dunno. We all got paid. He states he is paying. So that’s good.

Karma is not pretty though. Things will catch up to him.

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How much do you think signing service owners are making per month?

Great question. Obviously, it depends on their volume, and the mystery is how do they find business? If they have relationships with big title firms, and keep signings coming in, skimming a big chunk of the fee (I once did a signing for $85, and saw in the closing statement that the notary signing fee was $200, so they got the bulk of it), they could make a lot of dough.

Are people really doubting my existence? This is crazy. I am Ramon George

Just want to post a follow-up to my first initial topic regarding Elite. He has paid myself and my fellow notaries that were initially in my post. As far as I know he is paying you all within 30- 45 days. He reads these comments and promptly paid us. He will continue to read these as they come as he himself is a seasoned notary. Definitely do the signings with him if he’s paying. I was sharing my experience and caution.

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I completed a signing in early January and was paid yesterday. I did reach out and it took a bit to hear back but he did text me and remind me of the 45-60 day TAT identified on the confirmation. He was right, that was there and I missed it (I’m just used to 30 days). So, all is well as of now. I enjoyed working the singing - was easy enough and straightforward. I will take additional signings if he offers them to me. :slight_smile:

@turnernotary87 :white_check_mark: Thanks for your direct experience update.

A key insight that I regularly identify & recommend is to ASK a quick follow-up question when a Payment Date Turn-Around-Time [TAT] is identified by your client:

“Is that 30 calendar days before the check is cut & mailed? OR, is it 30 business days?”

=> If it turns out they’re withholding payment for your successfully provided professional services for 45-60 days (approximately 30 business days), truly that’s too long.

Each business owner has direct out-of-pocket expenses with each & every signing; i.e., gasoline, turnpike fees, ferry fees, paper, toner, pens, masks, etc. ad nauseam. The bill for those direct out-of-pocket expenses arrives in about 25 CALENDAR days after the purchase (or sooner).

So, it’s in your best interest to ensure that payment TAT is 25 calendar days or sooner . . .

Best Wishes :swan:

I must say he was a nice guy to work with but I blocked them awhile ago because I didn’t like the long wait. Maybe I’ve been spoiled with quick direct deposits in my bank account each week.

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