Have anyone thought about the Gov. Shutdown?

@Bobby-CA :blush: Yes, I’m strategically planning the same! :balloon:

It will be excellent time of year (pre-Christmas) to help with those budget-busting gift purchases over the next few months . . . :joy:


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$20K, really? I’m doing a lot of them and haven’t seen costs like that. I’ll pay closer attention.

I see from 18-26 all the time.

I’ll start paying more attention and report back in. :slightly_smiling_face:

I have seen the fee for refi’s decline over the last three weeks in East Tennessee. Coast 2 Coast started getting a lot of refi orders in this area and dropped the fee to $75. Now other services are doing the same. Before this, in my city refi’s started at $85 and anything outside of the city I lived in I was getting between $100 and $120 depending on the page count. The highest refi I have seen in this area was direct from title and it was $200. 99% of them now are $75 whether they’re local or an hour away. Refi’s are now priced the same as a sellers package here. I don’t see how any notaries business can survive at $75 for a refi. With print and travel expense over $20 for an average refi there isn’t enough left to make a sustainable profit.

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All good info but I was thinking about loan fees charged to the borrower in the $20K+ range that johnson was referencing.

I totally agree. This is ridiculous and not meant to be

I think the only time I saw fees close to that was for the newer reverse mortgages - but for a standard refi? Cannot imagine how they itemize $20k in fees.

It’s been steady in Northern California. I share my office with another notary and we go through a ten-ream box of letter paper a week. The toner cartridges must be half empty because we have been going through one XL cartridge every four days. Crushingly expensive because I only buy genuine Brother cartridges, my printers choke on the cheaper cartridges and Brother tech support will not help if you fess up. The request for scans has sky-rocketed and must be included when accepting a fee. A scan means extra time and effort and you cannot ship right after the assignment. Those mixed page length document sets means babysitting each page as it goes through, truly a time-killer.

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Are you signed up with multiple platforms? I’m in West Tennessee and it’s been busy the last two months that I can’t keep up.

Yes. Snapdocs, signingorders, Bavcserv, Jot, The Closing Exchange, Mavsign, Signature Closers, and others. Also direct with Title. We have had spurts of higher volume over the summer but the last month or so, has been really slow. I have had 2 buyers packages in the last 6 months. Most of what we have seen is sellers from people moving to Tennessee and refi’s. But as I mentioned in another post, there have been a couple of services that have had most of the refi’s in the last several weeks and they have reset the fee’s to a point that it doesn’t make good business since to even respond to them. Refi’s locally and with in an hour drive are now being offered and taken by some notaries at $75 as is, meaning you take it at that price no matter how many pages there are to print. When I did counter with a price that made since for me and a print fee if the package is greater than 150 pages, you never hear from them. There were probaly 5-8 order offers that have gone out through text blast in the last 7 days in this area. The majority of the work I have done has been through signingorders.com.

Understand, it’s so unfortunately that others will accept those fees which impacts everyone. I was joking with my sister last week about an order that was 50 miles out and I told her I put $300 as a counteroffer. I had no attention of doing that order and never would have thought they would accept the counteroffer.

Sorry to hear you all are not getting orders in that area. I know I hate to get out when it’s cold so I’m getting my RON setup for the winter months.

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It makes me feel sad but blessed to see other say it’s slow. I’ve had a SS owner tell me the other day that others tell her it’s slow. I’ve been so busy that I recently hired someone to just do the data entry into my CRM. I can’t keep up with the inflow since there’s a good chunk of companies that don’t work with the auto import feature on Notary Gadget. I’ve over booked myself several times in the last 2 months.

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When this silly shutdown is resolved and the effects of the recent interest rate adjustment kick in, I’m gonna be busier than a cow’s tail in fly season. If business is slow for some notaries, it must be a regional thing. I’d be interested in reading what other notaries have concluded about slow biz.

Now keep in mind that upmuntil late August I didn’t do loan signings full time. I was watching my grandsons a lot. They started school this year but I’ll say last month was my busiest ever. I was a little disappointed last week with EOM but it’s not like it was non existent. Like I said, I was busy watching grandsons the last 5 years but I also don’t remember turning down nearly the amount I did and still turned down a lot. I am noticing lower rates a bit and even more buying down to low 5. I’m also seeing an uptick in divorce refinance and assumptions though.

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Yeah, last week was a ā€œone-offā€ probably because Hallowe’en was on Friday and people planned on being otherwise occupied. I’m anticipating a heavy week ahead. I’m seeing a switch from the large number of buys and sells (most in Arizona, by the way) to 90% refinances. I’m tracking 2% drops in rates being gobbled up by homeowners. Sideliners, I’m guessing, will start applying for loans as rates continue to drop and I’ll get even busier.

I can handle up to 5 or six deals a day if timed right. It’s a regional thing, though. Population density is high in Southern California and everybody here moves a lot.

I think you may be right. Saturday being the first, brought me 2 refinance to start the month off right. So many are buying down right now and I’ve seen I think two couples this year that I saw a year or two ago refinancing again to get the lower rates they got stuck with prior.

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