Hire Notary RIPOFF

You’ve probably received the following in your email this past week:
Dear signing agent,

In a financial landscape marked by complexity and constant evolution, strategic presence across diverse platforms is the cornerstone of professional success. It is with great enthusiasm that we extend to you an invitation to join our distinguished Loan Signing Agent portal proudly woman-founded and operated since 2008.

Here’s what you’ll get by joining us:

1. More clients: Reach a wider audience of clients looking for Loan Signing Agents, regardless of where they are.
2. Easy to use: Our platform is designed to make your work smoother, so you can focus on what matters most.
3. Networking: Connect with others in your field to share knowledge and opportunities.
4. Learning and support: Access training and help whenever you need it, keeping you at the top of your game.

Whether you’re experienced or just starting out, Hire Notary can help you succeed as a Loan Signing Agent. Join us today to take your career to the next level.

We can’t wait to welcome you aboard and help you reach your goals.

Should you have any inquiries, [don’t hesitate to reach out to us]

Please visit our website [www .hirenotary.com] (Link modified - Notary Cafe moderators)

Thank you for your time and consideration. We look forward to working with you.

Every word of this come-on is BS! I was suckered in when I first became a notary and pi**ed away $48 to these crooks. Same with USA-Signing Agent. com (Link modified - Notary Cafe moderators)

Don’t believe me? Do some research, ask around to the vets in this business, check out the “gold mine” in the Forum data bank (see magnifying glass in the header of this website). Keep your money and your temper and STAY AWAY from these rip-off artists.

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Yes, if you fall for their line of BS, you will pay them their $48 and never hear from them again.

You would think that by now, people would have caught on to them, but the fact that they’re still sending out the same lying emails means that people are still falling for it.

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@Bobby-CA Thank You for ‘caring & sharing’ this information. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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I’m always leery of companies like this. Why should I have to pay you for offering me work? You need a notary to be boots on the ground. I shouldn’t have to pay a fee when all companies that seek notaries get a cut from title. Thank you for reaffirming my thoughts on this!

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Thank you for posting. This saved me the trouble and the fee.

Hire Notary’s email marketing is getting more sophisticated. They sent me an email that says they understand that they understand that fees being offered are low and they list a bunch of reasons why notaries should be paid more, blah, blah, blah…They want your sign up fee and then they vanish never to be heard from. Scam.

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There is an old rule that says to never pay to work for someone. There is good reason for that. I guess everyone has to get burned at least once to learn the lesson though.

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Wish I had joined this site first having completed the NSA training. Same experience as others mention on here, at least I saw the warnings about usa-signingagent!

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There is an old rule that says to never pay to work for someone.
This is why some of the low fees offered by certain signing services are unsustainable. After factoring in business overhead, notaries who accept these low rates are essentially “paying to work” for someone else.

I was trying to quote what steves11 stated in his comment, the way cNSA5 does but it did not come out like hers. :slightly_frowning_face:

@Executivenotarysolutions :relieved_face::thong_sandal:

1. Highlight the excerpt you would like to include in your Reply (see screen shot below).

2. Navigate to the bottom of the thread and Left Click the “<= Reply” button (see screen shot below).

3. Now Type your actual response . . . into the Reply field.

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4. Result

This is why some of the low fees offered by certain signing services are unsustainable. After factoring in business overhead, notaries who accept these low rates are essentially “paying to work” for someone else.:sparkles:

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Unsustainable for whom? The notaries finally wise up and stop working for those low rates, but newbies take their place, and the whole cycle is repeated over and over. Companies that offer those rates continue to do the same thing with new notaries. This is evident in the pages of basic instructions that come with each of their new orders.

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@Executivenotarysolutions Have you seen the Reply to your post from steve11 above? :blush:

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Yes and thank you for letting me know!!! :grin: and thank you for showing me how to quote another person’s comment!!!

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True, the cycle continues when new notaries accept unsustainably low fees — but that doesn’t mean we should accept it as the norm. Every notary, new or seasoned, should understand that those rates often mean they’re essentially paying to work once expenses are factored in. If more of us refuse those offers, companies will eventually have to adjust. The detailed ‘basic instructions’ in those low-paying orders often reflect the extra oversight needed when hiring someone inexperienced — which is another reason why investing in skilled, well-equipped notaries benefits everyone involved. I’ve invested in top-of-the-line equipment for both my home and mobile office to ensure accuracy, efficiency, and a professional experience for every client — and that level of service simply can’t be delivered at bargain-basement rates."

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I appreciate the perspective and would love additional insight into your setup however; as a newish NSA how else are we supposed to get experience? How can we learn or grow our businesses? Im not suggesting that newer notarys get a pass suppressing the market - I just turned down a lowball $84 for a 100pg HELOC w same night scanbacks and required notary bring a witness! My first signing was a hoot and partial cluster but excited for more work at “standard” rates. Any and all suggestions appreciated!

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Hi Carmen, If experience is the teacher, lowball offers are the pop quizzes we should all fail on purpose.
We’ve all had that memorable first signing — sometimes a little chaotic, but a great
learning moment. That $84 HELOC with same-day scanbacks and a witness
requirement? Offers like that just don’t reflect the time, resources, and expertise we bring.
Here are a few ways to gain experience without underselling yourself:
Build relationships with local title companies, escrow officers, and attorneys —
even smaller, fairly priced signings can open doors.
Track your numbers (time, mileage, printing costs, supplies) so you can quote
confidently.
Network with other notaries to share referrals and advice.
Stay visible on platforms and social media so clients see your professionalism.
Bottom line: when you combine professionalism with fair pricing, the right clients will
notice and keep coming back.

How do you balance gaining experience with standing firm on your rates

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@carmen First, I’d like to :sparkles: commend :sparkles: you for playing the ‘long game’ by rejecting the Lowball Signing Orders proffered currently. This type of action helps you in the short-term as well as in the long-term by ensuring you’re compensated with appropriate remuneration for the professional services you provide. :tada:

Second, the insightful overview provided by @Executivenotarysolutions demonstrates the building-block techniques to navigate this business sector as a new business owner.

Third, there’s also much to be learned from taking the time to Research the Notary Cafe database for the immediately available ‘pearls of wisdom’ imparted by other business owners who have generously shared their direct experience.

Here are a few threads to get started . . .

Fourth, REMEMBER to Code the Contact List in your phone! It’ll save you much time & frustration. :white_check_mark::sparkles:

Check out this thread for some business entities to AVOID . . . here’s another thread of businesses to AVOID . . .

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