SA not giving full info

I had a signing yesterday. Long story short, 4 people needed to be there to sign the deed. The main signer had to go get her husband and brother and the brother’s wife couldn’t get there so I need to meet with her today. Should they be giving me an extra fee for the 2nd trip?

  1. Shouldn’t the Company (we were at the bank also with the Loan Officer) told her that everyone needed to be there as well as shouldn’t they have informed me?

This signing is a colossal mess up, I’d also like to know if anyone knows, who drafts these deeds? The deed is still completely worded wrong and I doubt our register of deeds will accept it.

Thank you in advance!

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Hmm :unamused: unpleasant scenario and you’re stoked in the middle. If I were you I would speak to the hiring party directly and tell them that you don’t mind doing the closing as long everybody is present at the same time and you to get paid all your time and work. If you don’t mind, how much are you getting paid for this signing???.. looks to me lots of pages to print and sign

Yes - and yes this should have been cleared up by title or LO. But you should definitely get a second fee for the second signing - also, keep in mind - everyone signed yesterday except one - notarizations were dated yesterday; lone wolf is being signed today - you MUST use today’s date - you cannot backdate your notarization…you’re going to have to attach a loose cert for this one lone signer…dated today

Did you clear the split signing with hiring party before agreeing to meeting today? Also, curious - was this a refinance subject to right of rescission?

You’re right - this is a mess…LOL!

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It was $125.00 was about 130 pages maybe. But had zero idea about all of the signers until I got there. Now I’m tracking down the last signer and it looks like I am driving to another city tonight to meet her at work.

I sent a message to the signing comp. as well as I believe it was the lender. There was an email on the front sheet. I messaged them bother yesterday and no one has gotten back to me at all.

I don’t mind extra signers, but surprises like that is not my favorite. Then you have the loan officer at the bank speaking spanish about the loan and telling me well she has to sign as she’s ready to give birth. In my mind, I’m thinking what is going on here. The whole scenario was off

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I tried to get ahold of them, there isn’t anyone getting back to me. I stated to both -all -actually an aff needs to be done to fix the scrivener that drafted the deed.

I was going to ask, how in the world do I add the brothers wife sig, since it is dated yesterday.

Can she sign the line and I add the acknow. with the change of date? uh, lol. I am getting so confused at this horrible mess Its a complete s*** show.

My fiance is an attorney and he asked me ‘Who drafts these’? lol Its terrible lol

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You should have a straight talk to the signing service… either they pay you what you deserve ($300) or they better start looking for someone else. Be firm with them and demand what you deserve… you still have to print copies for each signer, if they’re not husband and wife

You have a good point! Can I do that? Can I just state the pay has to be this? Its like $125.00 now.

The original deed had the brother and sister listed as husband and wife. the brother was just the co-signer

new deed has the wife of the brother and the husband of the sister (4) total and the wording isn’t even correct.

I just was notified that the 4th signer that I need to get only speaks spanish and I do not. Now I’m stuck again with what do I do.

The Signing service finally responded with - They have relayed my message to title-
I had stated on their this was my 4th/5th attempt

@LindaH-FL The loan officer said she sent the info over, just sign it and it will get fixed later. It was a very odd deal. Something was just off.

If you want to get out of this mess just tell them that you NO HABLO ESPAÑOL and you can’t notarize something that the person is not understanding.

If you’re in Florida you can do it…I just posted in another thread about using a translator - statute is §117.107(6), Fla. Stat.

I told them that I cant. They asked for the lady to get a translator. But I don’t know how to get paid for the ones I did if the 4th didn’t sign

I am in Michigan. Its now a few days later and still noting

The training I went to said to call make sure they know who needs to be there

I would check directly with your SOS (if you want the info for future reference)- you handbook addresses foreign language documents but not signing a document written in English but signed by a non-english speaking signer.

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was it coast to coast? Just had one where they omitted details. Lucky I caught it. Must say I think Lisa is a top notch Notary. I will reserve my comments about the people she employees. Those folks try to be sneaky. Thankfully all has been documented on snap docs.

When I confirm, I tell the the person who answers the phone who must be there and what ID they need. I include any other pertinent info and verify time, date, address, etc.
I have them acknowledge it all.

They all knew. It was listed as one signer. It was just a rush job

I certainly don’t like the fact that there was a language situation.

This is what the NNA says:
“However, in every state except Arizona, Notaries are prohibited from using a third-party interpreter to communicate with signers during notarizations. Unless you’re an Arizona Notary, if the signer can’t speak with you directly in a language you understand, the best course is to refer the signer to a Notary who is fluent in the signer’s language.”

So, I would not notarize!