I recently had a Signing Service contact me from the Midwest and they gave me all these reasons to work with them so I said yes and I accepted a signing from them. I then saw that their portal was so complicated with so many different things to fill-in. Then I did not receive the documents till the morning of a 9 AM signing from them. I refuse to print documents at 10 PM at night then when I finish completely and scan back the documents I got my 10th call of the week from the Signing Service door 2 door documents.
He asked me did you put the dot next to where they should sign? I was speechless and just told them we were not a good fit. Why do we pay them half of our money and then they expect us to jump through their hoops and not Trust Notaries that been doing this for 20 years full-time I know there are many more like me that are seasoned professionals and we want Signing services to do their work, not make us do their work on their portals that are just too much work before The Signing at The Signing after The Signing after you scan after you drop them all have to be reported, including the receipt has to be sent to them But the final thing was putting a dot where they should sign Be Careful the time it takes you to work on their portal does not equate to the money they’re paying you with Signing and scan backs and dropping them
How odd, since most services tell us not to mark documents in any way.
@dove392 Absolutely! 
A signing service refers to an individual or company that acts as an intermediary or facilitator for individuals engaged in loan signings, primarily by connecting them with customers. The business model of a signing service revolves around exploiting individuals for financial gain by controlling and profiting from their participation. Now Dove 392, what’s your question?
Well, I’ve heard a lot of stupid things, but “put the dot next to where they should sign”?
I guess we can put up with a lot of silly, demeaning stuff if they pay well enough. Do they? Is their pay rate enough to put up with all the crap? If not, then I would bail.
There are some lenders and title companies that don’t want any marks on anything. I wouldn’t put dots on anything myself. My first year I used sign here flags so I wouldn’t miss anything but found I didn’t need them as I gained experience.
Well, that’s the Truth of it . . .I don’t understand if dove392 is complaining because they expected her to put a dot where the signers should sign, and she didn’t, or the other way around. Did dove392 put a dot where the signers should sign without being instructed to do so?
Bobby, it is important to take into account all the miscellaneous requirements and support provided by the hiring party, rather than focusing solely on that peculiar dot request. If I were a hiring party, I would be babysitting these loans probably even worse than what I’m reading. It’s easy to make a mistake when you’re doing a remote closing, and since profit is the main driver, most hiring parties will not hire a seasoned professional such as I. Title companies are hip to this and hire direct, therefore removing the middleman and the financial incentive of selling the job to the lowest bidder.
Really??? If the initial SS instructions stated to “put a dot” on a document I would have questioned that and ask them if they think I know how to do my job. If it was a requirement of the lender then I would do it even though it’s a ridiculous request. Other wise they can find someone else to be their puppet.
Wrong Bobby. I did not opine on this thread, Joe. 
100% correct! The exploitation began with the NNA (the OG) when they gathered lenders, title and other business professionals in the mortgage industry and facilitated the compilation of rules and procedures for Notaries to follow when in service to them, aka The Code of Conduct.
I’ve used signature flags to identify where a customer was to sign but that was more for me not to miss it however I have yet to be asked about a dot. As long as they signed it what does it manner about a dot! Definitely not a good fit.
Little [signature] flags is the best way, IMO, to remember and call attention to things on the documents you want to avoid overlooking or that you want signed. Fast, easy, leaves no evidence, looks professional.
I got tired of buying them after a year. I find you get used to lenders and titles documents.
@dove392 Excellent insight 
by Bobby-CA & Arlenatnotaryagent for those who are novices/in the beginning phase!
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