Yes i agree with you however most people working those jobs are high-school or college kids still living at home or retired individuals looking for extra income. At least it used to be. In areas like Yuma AZ where you can still rent an aprtment for $600 a month and making $600 to $700 a week it is doable.
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With options like Doordash which allows them to choose hours and get paid on the spot many are going for that. But yes you are correct. They don’t want to put in the work to lay the foundation. You have to start somewhere.
I started at Checkers, Winn Dixie, and JC Penny.
That allowed me to be a teacher, which allowed me to be a Realtor, which allowed me to open my own HL consultation company, and later allowed me to become a notary public and loan signing agent.
Whew! Never wrote all this out, but this is exactly what they are missing. Endurance
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Hi Everyone,
I wanted to jump in and address a few things that are happening here. I understand that talking about today’s climate can help connect with others and shed light on the viewpoints of other.
But please don’t forget that Notary Cafe’s focus is on the signing industry. The state of the overall economic situation does play a role in this field, but I feel that this discussion isn’t adding any Notary centered information. Personally, I feel there are other general social media platforms these types of conversations are better suited for.
My point is that people often come to the Notary Cafe forums looking for specific information. We are trying to promote conversation centered around a certain industry and not trying to be a full social media platform.
Please be respectful of those who may feel that the conversation has veered off topic. I am not colsing this topic for now, but discussions about how others are contributing to society as a whole are not really what we want to focus on here.
Thanks for understanding,
NC_Mike
Notary Cafe
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Sorry, my bad!
if they would stop firing the people who call out last minute and talk on the phone while working they might have staff
Not necessarily true but what I have found in this time of pandemic that many people had no recourse but to shift gears and become entrepreneurial minded. So yes there is a shortage in the traditional workplace but the people who lost their jobs as a result of the pandemic had to recover and survive so they be came very creative and found alternate methods of income. Many of them have food trucks and other businesses that they do outside of the traditional workplace. So it would be unfair to categorically say that people are lazy and don’t want to work. I commend those people that took control of their lives and their fate and made moves.
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I would like to clarify. The post is about the new generation of young people who are still living with your parents like the high school students who normally start off at McDonald’s or other fast food places. So $17-$20 an hour is pretty good but they don’t want to work.
A lot of us started off at McDonald’s or other fast food places when we were in High School at $3 an hr.
Keep in mind extropolating the current $7/hr minimum wage from 2009 to today moves the needle to about $15/hr. This places the $17-20/hr just above what should be the minimum wage. The average wage in the US is about $50K or $25/hr. It’s not laziness, it the fact that many of the $17-20 jobs don’t appeal to the workforce when better opportunities exist.
During the pandemic many companies took this as an opportunity to shed their workforce of older workers, who became entrepreneurs. The number of NSAs is one indicator of this. Removing these works has contributed to current labor shortage. Many business have do this to themselves.
The labor shortage has driven up labor costs. Employers are now faced with rising costs and adding benefits to worker salary packages.
This is a misnomer. There isn’t a labor shortage and it’s not that people aren’t working or trying to get work. Several experiments have been done and have shown that, although there are a lot of hiring signs, they’re not hiring like they should be. Several of these experiments show that even if you submit a large amount resumes, you’re not likely to get THAT much of a return. In fact ABC did coverage of a story last year of a woman submitting 1K resumes and getting NONE (can be viewed here). This isn’t a labor shortage, this is a market shift.
These jobs, even while having supply, aren’t choosing to treat their employees properly or pay them decently and the employees are choosing to become self-employed. The market has been saturated with companies who hire and fire employees after using them until they burn out. Gamestop, for example, was notorious for this. Hiring young, impressionable teens or college kids who needed work and then making them work excessive hours and overtime around the clock. These employees would then be fired at the drop of a hat and new people hired on for this process to repeat.
Gamestop isn’t the only company doing this either and people know this. I worked with a guy who worked at the same job for around 12 years. He NEVER got so much as a pay raise. For 12 years he worked for $12/hr and when you spoke with him, he was tired of it and planning to leave because they wouldn’t give any kind of return on his work.
The pandemic gave people like him a chance to see a change of pace. Better pay, work/life balance, less stress and unneeded oversight etc. and A LOT of those people became Signing Agents and notaries. The number of self-employed, contractors and online businesses has boomed over the last few years, not shrunk. It’s not laziness, the market has shifted. If you want to employ people, you need to pay and treat them properly. That’s the demand, it’s up for employers to give the supply.
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Not sure about the job market, here or anywhere else…but I do know this from info from community members, employers, etc etc - more and more people applying for jobs and not showing up for interviews, or if they get hired they never show up for work - if they do show up they don’t want to do the work required and it shows in their customer service - trust me, the $15/hour hasn’t helped at all.
Down here where I am yes, laziness is the rule of the day - as is a total lack of work ethic.
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Bingo! As someone in management I have recently conducted several interviews where you can actually see candidates lack of work ethic. We want to fill all spots but would rather wait for qualified, dependable candidates instead of just filling positions.
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Many places in my area are cutting hours and/or flat-out shutting down due to lack of staff. Yet if you read FB people are screaming “I need a job, who’s hiring??” Well, duh? Everyone/??
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Then they show up to an interview not prepared! Literally can’t remember which position they’re interviewing for🤦🏾♀️. I believe it’s more of a qualified employee shortage then the labor shortage people are screaming about.
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Yep, true but sad……………
Yep, yep, true…………………
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All our stores are short handed, our doctor offices, our hospitals! Every one! Unbelievable!! I dont understand!
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I’m glad you brought that up. My daughter’s school is short on staff and in desperate need for school bus drivers, and more! And then last week my family went out to eat at a restaurant, there was only one waitress on the floor and the poor lady was in her 60s definitely not in her 50s! 
She was working really hard and we didn’t see any young people on the floor working at all:(
Anyone familiar with Sonic Drive in restaurants? They’re the ones who serve you at your car…the other day someone reported on FB that. our local Sonic had one young man working the whole p!ace…ONE!!! And he did it with a smile and a fantastic attitude…he was polite, running like crazy but got every order right.
They need to clone that young man…but ONE employee working the whole p!ace??? Insane
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Yep, I believe it.
I wouldn’t mind if I’m the only Signing Agent in my area though!!! 
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That is insane and I feel the same way. I don’t get it. Yet I see no shortage of people with hair and nails done, nice cars, shopping, phones, lifestyle hasn’t changed… These are highly skilled trade labor pay rates. I don’t understand. I drove through one today and was disgusted at the health violations that some may not notice, but being in Food Service/Area Management/Finance as my background, I find it disgusting that the lady at the window wasn’t wearing a hair net, leaning over the ice bin, playing with her weave/smoothing it down, eating at the window, not washing hands and just chilling there; all while we were waiting for kids food!!! oh my…