I’m new at this and just wondering what documents require 8x14 print ?
There’s no hard and fast rule, basically whatever documents the lender, attorney and title company decide that they want on legal (8 1/2 x 14) sized paper. Some files will have no legal pages, other files could be all legal, and then some files could be any combination in between…
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Just make sure you print the documents as directed by your contracting company. They will normally either want you to print them on the same size paper that that the PDF page sizes are, or they will tell you to print them all legal.
It’s often very difficult to tell what size the documents are when the document stack contains a mix of legal and letter sizes. It wasn’t long before I decided I needed a printer with dual trays, one filled with letter size and the other filled with legal, and to let Adobe Acrobat Reader figure out what size each page is and automatically select the correct paper tray. LIfe really got a whole lot easier after that. I’ve been using my dual-tray Brother HL-L8200DW which is a laser (most firms require a laser printer) for several years and it has been a solid workhorse.
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For the last two or three decades, there has been a constant trend from legal size towards letter paper in most areas of law, banking and government.
However, these three areas are also slow to change. It may be many decades before a transition is substantially complete.
The use of letter vs. legal often depends upon the locations of the attorneys, banks, closing agents, recording jurisdiction, etc.
While I sometimes get an ‘all-letter-size’ package (about <1% of closings), it is by far the exception rather than the rule.
For the meantime, a dual tray printer (or page separator software), to me is a necessity.
HWB.
Yes, If the document is in legal size, you must print it in legal size. Period. There is a reason they chose that size paper for that specific document. So don’t resize it to letter, what ever you do…
Legal paper expensive, I buy a case at a time at Amazon. I buy 10-20 case at a time at Fry Electronics, but their prices have even gone up.Got to shop around.
Good luck
I agree there is a movement away from legal. With paper costs sky rocketing, especially legal size, I started asking if all docs can be printed on letter size paper. Since I began asking this question I’ve only had 1 assignment that said it had to be size specific. The interesting aspect of that 1 assignment is that all the docs that would be recorder were on letter size paper. Fifteen pages were a large 1003 that were letter size but had been scanned to the file as legal size. Only 2 pages were truly legal size.
When in Adobe Reader, you can ‘show thumbnails’, which makes the size visible along the left side of the screen.
Click ‘view’ > ‘show/hide’ > ‘navigation pane’ > ‘page thumbnails’… and a scrollable, numbered list appears on the left side of your screen. You can ‘click’ these miniature pages and it will only print those you’ve chosen.
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Hi Arichter…I know this is an old post, but you’re on here often, so I know you will see this. What is paper size “other”? I have letter, legal and “other” in my order for tomorrow.
TIA for your help!
It could be anything, but is usually something that’s been copied…like a survey or ?
Your printer may just print it ‘however’ or it could just STOP printing and try to tell you oopsie, I have a paper-size issue here. Easiest solution is to tell it to USE LEGAL SIZE because otherwise you may wind up with a partial page. OR…and this is worst case…whoever scanned it screwed up and it could have been scanned as 8 1/2 x 12 or 13 or who knows…just not legal/8 1/2 x 14. If it’s more’n 1 page, you’re gonna be frustrated and annoyed by ALL the possibly unneeded legal you wasted. Use my post above to avoid this. I now see I could improve that: to print multiple pages FROM clicking on each thumbnail you want to print…ya’ gotta hold down the Ctrl key while clicking.
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Some files will be shrunk down to 8 1/2 x 11…by the lender! Yet they forbid us to do it. Kind of a double standard if you ask me. I don’t get why they still insist on mixed sizes. I mean…what’s the point?
Thank you! The “others” printed out perfectly on legal size paper. It was a tax summary from 1998-2024 from the County Assessment and Taxation website
Sometimes there is a minimum font size required by law. If a document started wit a small font and then got shrunk, it might not meet legal requirements. The lender or title company should know what documents can be shrunk and which ones can’t.
The ironic part to me is that some lenders will have a document as legal size while others will have the same document as letter size. I have found this to be true with a wide variety of documents, including Deed of Trust, Note, Loan Application, W9 and even the Patriot Act Form. There is no uniformity between lenders. Sometimes they’ll have 150 pages of letter size and ONE page of legal size in a document set. What is that one page? It can be anything…even just an instruction page.
I use letter on 95% of my signings. I only do legal when instructions require it. I do about 30 signings a month.
30 signings a month!? Wow! That’s great! How far do you travel? Do you get your orders from a platform or are title companies giving you direct work?
have you used Notary Rotary’s Page sorter? it helps a lot if you only have 1 tray and need to switch sizes out , and the “other” size will show up, and like @Arichter says you may be able to choose letter or legal based on what it says . Adobe is great because you can view the pages like she said , so if you don’t have it consider getting the basic package .
Thanks for that. You’re a pro!!
I signed up with over 75 companies. Time consuming but worth the effort. I travel a 50 mile radius. I live in a small town and have to travel a bit. Of course, the milage determines my fee. It’s been slow this month, but it will pick up.
When there are only a few legal size pages in a package, I will often print them letter size just to keep the entire package uniform. I’ve never had a problem doing that insofar as anything ever getting kicked back because it was the wrong size. As long as you “fit to page” you should be okay.